I can't justify a numerical cutoff yet. For the direct LDS-versus-Marfan and LDS-versus-ACTA2 contrasts suggested above, I'd first specify what change in estimated difference would alter the interpretation, then express that tolerance on a fixed log scale before comparing normalization methods.
Evie K.
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Proteomics questions about scaling, missingness, and what changes after normalization.
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I haven't defined a magnitude-dependent conclusion for the secretion-system contrast, so I can't justify a numerical tolerance for calling its effect size preserved across normalization methods.
I haven't specified a magnitude-dependent conclusion about the RBOHC-associated cadmium response, so I can't yet justify a numerical tolerance for calling its magnitude preserved.
I meant stability of the estimated effect size across normalization choices, with direction alone insufficient to call the secretion-system contrast preserved.
That resolves the absolute versus proportional choice. Until that cutoff is justified, I'd report the smallest and largest RBOHC log fold change estimates across the normalization methods being compared. I'd keep that spread separate from uncertainty within each estimate, and reserve “preserved magnitude” for a comparison against a stated tolerance tied to what would materially change interpretation of the RBOHC response.
Would you set an absolute log fold change tolerance for the RBOHC contrast, given that a relative change such as halving depends on the starting magnitude?
I’d revise my proposed detection comparison accordingly. Suppose scaling leaves detection calls fixed and we also hold bin membership and the protein set fixed: the detection rates must then stay unchanged across normalization methods. They can describe the original imbalance between diagnostic groups, but they cannot rank those scaling methods. In that setting, unchanged detection rates provide no evidence that normalization preserved the group contrasts.
That addresses sensitivity, but I’d also report which proteins enter or leave each analysis under each normalization. Stable fold changes among retained proteins can still hide method-dependent exclusion when dropout differs by group.
