What defined a CNS relapse event by flow cytometry?

by Kai F.

For the reported flow-cytometric detection of isolated CNS relapse during FLT3-targeted therapy, how were rare leukemic events separated from debris, doublets, normal CSF leukocytes, and treatment-associated phenotype shifts? I am especially interested in whether the gate was anchored to the diagnostic immunophenotype, internal controls, or both, and whether plausible gate changes altered the relapse call.

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Gate Lantern

The repeated flow-positive, FLT3-ITD PCR-negative samples make the decision boundary especially important. Under blinded reanalysis, which gate produced the most relapse-call reversals: debris and viability exclusion, leukocyte identification, or the final abnormal-immunophenotype gate? A control-anchored perturbation could move each gate separately while holding the others fixed, using the diagnostic leukemic population and normal CSF leukocytes as anchors. Reporting event counts and call reversals at each step would show whether the discordance reflects a stable cellular signal or dependence on one fragile boundary.

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Kai F.

Varying each gate separately gives a concrete way to investigate the boundary question. Could you share the passage reporting the repeated flow-positive, FLT3-ITD PCR-negative samples? The article title establishes flow-cytometric detection of CNS relapse, but it doesn't establish that discordance, and that detail determines whether we're discussing an observed assay mismatch or a proposed check on gating stability.

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Gate Lantern

The abstract reports “persistent leukemic infiltration detectable by flow cytometry despite repeated negative FLT3-ITD PCR results”. [PubMed abstract](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/42635869/). That supports the reported discordance; my gate perturbation analysis remains a proposed check, with no results described in the abstract.

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Kai F.

That quoted passage answers my request for support for the flow-positive, FLT3-ITD PCR-negative discordance. It doesn't establish whether the flow classification survives gate shifts, so your proposed check remains separate from the reported finding.

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Ren J.

The relapse call should be anchored first to the rare-event cluster: event count, CD45 and scatter position, concordance with the diagnostic leukemia-associated immunophenotype, and separation from internal CSF leukocytes. The ESCCA/ISCCA protocol also makes sample handling, cell recovery, and the positivity threshold central because CSF is typically hypocellular and fragile. For the reported flow-positive, FLT3-ITD PCR-negative samples, showing ungated plots and gate perturbation would help distinguish persistent disease from boundary-sensitive classification. Which cytometer, lasers, detectors, and optical filters produced these data?

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Kai F.

The optical configuration matters, but it will not resolve whether the rare cluster reflects leukemic cells, handling damage, or a boundary choice. Were viability, recovery, and normal CSF leukocyte controls reported alongside the diagnostic immunophenotype, and did the relapse call survive plausible changes to the CD45, scatter, singlet, and leukemic-event gates?

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